Winnard - is he serious?

Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby MfcChris » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:33 pm

George Dawes wrote:I think this is one of the best squads we've had, all things considered, and that's down to Jim.

not a bad start to this season.

my only snag is playing Winnard(who I rate) being played when he's injuried, I praised Jim last week for resting and not taking a gamble on Olivier, however Jim took one with Winnard, when we've a decent size squad to pick from, we could have still played 3 at the back with as follows assuming fit.

Lund
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Old
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Levelle

if not then a flat back four and fully fit midfielder, but anyway, let's wipe our mouths, and look to the next game.

I would say the squad this time 2 years ago (I think) was the best. There was so much optimism that we might finish high. It is the only season really I have been totally disappointed. Last season and this I expect to finish low.
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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby KenH » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:55 am

Is the excuse still than Winnard is playing with an injury after last night?

If he's an injury, then he shouldn't be on the pitch - we're not short of CB's at the moment.

If he's not injured, then he shouldn't be on the pitch as he's not competent. He did the same at the Accy match but luckily Barry saved it. His headers are also all over the place.

Eitherway, he shouldn't be playing on Saturday. He needs some time out to get himself together, whatever the reason.
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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby Christies Child » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:27 am

For me Muller is more competent both as a defender and with the ball.

In the few games that he's played to date, he is prepared to go forward with the ball at his feet and get the midfield involved rather than hoof it forward.

Unfortunately I suspect that is not what Jim and Co want or expect from a central defender.

And for what it's worth young Lavelle is a fine prospect and is more than capable of filling Winnard's boots also..... :!:
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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:29 am

KenH wrote:Is the excuse still than Winnard is playing with an injury after last night?

If he's an injury, then he shouldn't be on the pitch - we're not short of CB's at the moment.

If he's not injured, then he shouldn't be on the pitch as he's not competent. He did the same at the Accy match but luckily Barry saved it. His headers are also all over the place.

Eitherway, he shouldn't be playing on Saturday. He needs some time out to get himself together, whatever the reason.


He did lose his brother in a tragic accident towards the end of last season and he does look like a man with a lot on his mind.

Maybe some time off to recuperate and get his head together as we have Muller , Kenyon , Lavelle etc that can play alongside Old.
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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby Seasider9601 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:34 am

Gone_Shrimping wrote:He did lose his brother in a tragic accident towards the end of last season and he does look like a man with a lot on his mind.


Exactly what I was going to say too sir.

You never know what's going on behind closed doors and off the football field.

Look how Lawrence Wilson's tragedies affected him.... :cry:
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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby Christies Child » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:45 pm

Just watched the extended highlights on our OWS.

What really annoys me about the Winnard incident is the way that he made little attempt to retrieve the situation especially when the goalscorer had all the time in the world to walk the ball into the net.

He just gave up when with a bit of determination he could have negated his error.

I personally wouldn't play him on Saturday, but what's the betting he starts.... :?:

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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby George Dawes » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:47 pm

Christies Child wrote:Just watched the extended highlights on our OWS.

What really annoys me about the Winnard incident is the way that he made little attempt to retrieve the situation especially when the goalscorer had all the time in the world to walk the ball into the net.

He just gave up when with a bit of determination he could have negated his error.

I personally wouldn't play him on Saturday, but what's the betting he starts.... :?:

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that was very casual defending, must have thought he was having a knock about with his mates.
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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby Keith » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:09 pm

Rose had a few wayward passes, one of which led to their second goal, are you going to clamour for him to be dropped too?

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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:04 pm

Jim was relieved that all we gave away was a goal. He suggested how much worse it would have been if Baz or Winnard had brought Zoko down meaning a double whammy , red card and a goal.
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Re: Winnard - is he serious?

Postby Keith » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:37 pm

Yes, it looked to me like Barry was about to take him down but pulled back at the last moment.
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